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20. RE: DO NOT BUY THE KAISER...
Jan 23 2008, 1:42 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 23 2008, 1:42 AM EST
"You do have the issue even if you haven't noticed it. Apparently, HTC knowingly released these phones without the drivers need to enable hardware acceleration thinking not enough people would notice and it wouldn't be a big deal. Your device would be so much better if the drivers are ever released. It's similar to having a nice video card and using the Windows default vga driver. You wouldn't be able to take advantage of your nice hardware. There is a plethora of information including examples and video proof of the problems here:

htcclassaction.org
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Have had the Tilt for about a month now. Finally figured out a workaround for YouTube videos, which is basically using TCPMP plus IE. I google the vid I want to watch plus "youtube" in the search terms, then when the vid I want comes up, clicking on the link opens "watch the video" in a contextual menu. Clicking on "watch the video opens it in TCPMP. Playback, and this is without the ROM update which I've read in the last couple of days is upcoming from HTC in February, is quite smooth- there's an occasional slight stutter but generally it's very watchable and goes to full screen and back, volume change, etc. without a stutter. Oddly enough loading the desktop version of the Youtube page slows both IE Mobile and Opera Mobile to an absolute crawl, so the only way to get to the vids is via google or yahoo search. Works just fine when you get there though. That said, there's enough buzz about the driver problem that I think it's a genuine issue and apparently it's been acknowledged by HTC, and a fix is in the works.
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21. RE: DO NOT BUY THE KAISER...
Jan 23 2008, 3:47 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 23 2008, 3:47 AM EST
"Have had the Tilt for about a month now. Finally figured out a workaround for YouTube videos, which is basically using TCPMP plus IE. I google the vid I want to watch plus "youtube" in the search terms, then when the vid I want comes up, clicking on the link opens "watch the video" in a contextual menu. Clicking on "watch the video opens it in TCPMP. Playback, and this is without the ROM update which I've read in the last couple of days is upcoming from HTC in February, is quite smooth- there's an occasional slight stutter but generally it's very watchable and goes to full screen and back, volume change, etc. without a stutter. Oddly enough loading the desktop version of the Youtube page slows both IE Mobile and Opera Mobile to an absolute crawl, so the only way to get to the vids is via google or yahoo search. Works just fine when you get there though. That said, there's enough buzz about the driver problem that I think it's a genuine issue and apparently it's been acknowledged by HTC, and a fix is in the works."
... bangs head against wall...

Again, you are completely missing the point.

This is not about the device's inability to play videos such as those found on youtube - the inability to natively view youtube without the workaround you describe is just a simple software problem; the fact that videos run relatively smoothly is due to their low resolution (at this resolution, any "slight stutter" as you put it is ridiculous on a modern smartphone).

If only you (sorry to pick on you) and HTC would realise that the fault is with the graphical hardware or software that controls all of the visual display functionality. The problem renders the device unable to efficiently display anything on the screen. You must recognise that menus, icons, pictures and text are all rendered slowly with notable lag, which is particularly obvious whenever you scroll through documents or across pictures or web-pages.

I am sure HTC can make all sorts of defences to charges that the devices cannot play hi-res films and games; the device is essentially a phone, not a gaming computer. What they cannot escape is the fact that it is marketed as a high powered convergence business device. I cannot use it effieciently for business purposes because Ithe awful lag makes it almost impossible to view large documents. The device fails to meet the standard of my reasonable expectations, which were based on very clear marketing.

Experience has shown that manufacturers and suppliers of hi-tech equipment usually release their products in a half-finished condition, knowing that the early purchasers will beta-test them. Software patches are then released, curing problems and perfecting the device. HTC has made this a legitimate expectation for consumers as its normal course of dealings. I think it would be perfectly reasonable for purchasers to return their devices outside the usual 30 day period if this expectation is not met.

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